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02-04
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Let's discuss the L2 issue in detail. Has L2 truly failed? Vitalik expressed that general-purpose L2 has little future significance because it initially only provided simple scaling, while Ethereum L1 now boasts strong scaling capabilities. Therefore, he suggests that these L2 platforms should find value additions beyond "scaling," such as privacy, social interaction, and perks, exemplified by Lightner. However, this situation will likely ultimately be beyond Vitalik's control. Established L2 platforms, such as Base, will continue to be active and won't shut down their ecosystems simply because of Vitalik's views. Just like in 2020, when Vitalik was overly concerned about the DeFi Summer, it didn't hinder the rapid growth of the DeFi ecosystem—that's the charm of decentralization. But encouraging application-oriented L2 is, in my opinion, the right thing to do. Ethereum's infrastructure is currently the best, giving it a very high chance of attracting institutional deployments, such as Robinhood (although it currently plans to build on Arbitrum). A major problem with this cycle is that the market is overly focused on Vitalik's views on ecosystem building. In reality, his actual impact in this area is limited; he can only make the road wider and smoother. He can't influence what kind of vehicles are on the road, nor can he control how fast they travel. Returning to the debate about whether L1 and L2 should coexist, the price of ETH actually has little to do with L2. It's just a problem researchers are arbitrarily blaming. Imagine if L2 didn't exist; numerous sidechains and homogeneous L1 chains would still be everywhere, like Polygon, BSC, and Avalanche. If these chains grew large, wouldn't they drain Ethereum's resources? This competitive relationship has always existed and won't increase or decrease simply because of the emergence of L2.
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02-03
There have recently been some discussions on the ongoing role of L2s in the Ethereum ecosystem, especially in the face of two facts: * L2s' progress to stage 2 (and, secondarily, on interop) has been far slower and more difficult than originally expected * L1 itself is scaling,
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02-02
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Even if the gas fee rises to 10K, it won't return to the state of the previous aristocratic chain. This is related to Ethereum's upgrades and scaling in the past two years. However, the market hasn't fully grasped this. A few years ago, everyone complained that gas was too expensive and unaffordable; now that the fee has been lowered, they say value capture is gone. This contradictory viewpoint is emotional, and the root cause is simply that the price hasn't increased. To borrow Lao Wu's example, the real problem now is that gas is already very cheap, but too few people are buying gasoline cars. Market sentiment is mostly price-driven, with few people concerned about the fundamental issues. Lowering Ethereum's fees now is the right path, and giving back to L2 is a necessary process. The current issue is clearly demand. These car buyers correspond to L2 and Protocol technologies. For L2, only Base2 is truly competitive. Ecosystems like OP's Superchain alliance and Uniswap's Unichain, once highly anticipated, haven't performed well this cycle. Of course, it's too early to say they've been disproven; everything needs time. On another level, Ethereum served as a store of value in the previous cycle, for example, with NFTs priced in ETH and most altcoins trading with ETH. However, these scenarios have been superseded by strong stablecoins in this cycle. While the large influx of stablecoins has certainly contributed to Ethereum's value growth, that's a separate story.
Colin Wu
@colinwu
02-01
大家都说这是 Tom Lee 的功劳 但我也有个疑惑。油太贵没人买油车;电太贵没人买电车;ETH 目标要做世界计算机,燃料费太贵,岂不是和它的目标相违背? 感觉 Vitalik 也许也有类似困惑。ETH 肯定不是比特币这样的数字黄金。所以 V 好像很少给 TomLee 站台,以及谈 ETH 价格。 x.com/Mentor_Jobber/…
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