The Zulu X space on BTC modularity featured leading voices from Zulu Network, Movement Labs, Avail, and Nexio. The dialogue unpacked the explosive growth and challenges of Bitcoin Layer 2 ecosystems, spotlighting innovative solutions like trustless bridges, parallelization, and interoperability with EVM and UTXO systems.
Zulu Network shared progress on pioneering projects like its BitVM-based decentralized bridge, marking steps toward a scalable, secure Bitcoin DeFi ecosystem. The conversation underscored collaboration, experimentation, and the shared vision of unlocking Bitcoin’s full potential for developers and users alike.
Here is a full transcript of the interesting conversation:
Luke (Zulu)
Hey everyone, right on time. Love that. Let’s start going over the intros and some early housekeeping. Thanks for everyone for joining us today, we have an amazing panel here talking to you about modularity on Bitcoin with me. I have 3 Amazing guests who are I think probably the best people to join us to speak on this topic. Some quick housekeeping as we start up and especially as speakers are here and as the audience again starts to join in: for the speakers can you try to keep yourselves on mute when you aren’t talking? After you’ve answered your questions, completed your remarks, go back on mute to the next speaker knows that it’s now their turn to start. After I ask each question, I’ll give a quick order of who speaks first, second, third. This way there’s none of that awkward silence where it’s like, “oh, you go ahead. You go ahead.” We’ll just know whose turn it is. But do feel free, and I really do want to encourage you, to chime in here and there. Just as long as you’re being respectful not attacking other speakers. Keep it nice and civil and try and wait for those speakers to finish before you make your comments about what it is they said, and I’ll rotate these orders that I’m doing so that it’s more fair, and so that one particular guest doesn’t make all the best points before the other guests have a chance to even say one word. And if there’s one question that you’re really, really excited about that you want to jump in there first I’m of course happy to change this order, just raise your hands, let me know and then happy to let you speak first and then go from there. So all right with that, let’s get into it. For a quick introduction, Zulu network, we are an innovative ZK Bitcoin protocol. We enable developers to seamlessly deploy Dapps on both EVM and UTXO layers, unlocking native yield and innovation. Zulu is building the first Bitcoin security equivalent layer two based on the revolutionary bitVM2 paradigm, and we are actually a key contributor recognized by Robin Linus himself to two bitVM’s repository, poised to launch the first trust minimized Bitcoin bridge. I have with me 3 amazing panelists. I’ll pass it over to them to let them discuss their projects.
Ali (Movement Labs)
Great and thank. You so much for setting up this space and hosting. So yeah, I’m with movement. My name is Ali, so movement is basically we’re bringing move to the VM space. We will be launching our own chain that sits on top of Ethereum. The move language offers not only security but also scalability and basically cost savings as well compared to some of the other kids that are out there. And yeah, just really excited to be on this panel to talk about modularity and how we fit into this into this space.
Kyle (Avail)
Alright, I’m up. My name is Kyle. I lead the business team out of Avail, where we’re working on a few different projects, starting with data availability, which is going on main net soon, along with an interop solution to tackle the fragmentation across the roll up landscape and one other product called Fusion with shared token security. Background is I led the business team for the graph ecosystem before this, before that Wall Street and before that military.
Charlie (Nexio)
Hey, thanks for having us on. I’m Charlie, one of the Co-founders of Nexio. To get into a little bit of background, I guess about me started mining ETH in 2017 over time, build a few different tools like a cross chain analytics tool helped out in a few different ecosystems. Really, everything changed once we saw ordinals, last February, became very excited for the Bitcoin miners, but definitely saw with ordinals. They did not have the infrastructure to bring the masses to Bitcoin, so with ordinals I was definitely becoming frustrated by the lack of tooling, slow transaction time, expensive gas fees. But we knew there was a ton of potential, so dove in further and I saw there was no other Bitcoin rollup solutions utilizing next Gen VMS. So eventually I called up one of my good friends. She went to college together and after some discussion. We realized that we can integrate the move VM with Bitcoin to enable parallelization. So now with Nexeo we’re building a we’re building a parallelized Bitcoin rollout using the move VM, enabling over 30,000 transactions a second and gas is less than one cent.
Luke (Zulu)
Great stuff. I love that we have all the same ideas and the same recognizing the same problems here that need to be addressed in ecosystem. It really points to a unified direction of where this space is head. Let’s talk about the Bitcoin rollup ecosystem. How are your projects supporting Bitcoin, EVM and defi ecosystem development?
Ali (Movement Labs)
Yeah. So movement at its core we have a few guiding principles. The first thing is we want to be a developer first chain. What that means is we really want to make sure that the protocols that are building on top of us, they get the resources that they need. whether that’s through grants, whether that’s through relationships, whether it’s through helping them raise funds. Like we one of the things that we really pride ourselves on is that once you’re part of the movement community. Everyone looks out for each other and tries to help out, and so when it comes to some of the roll ups that we work with and I’ll have next year speak because that’s like a prime example is like really helping them as much as they can they as much as they need and as well as they also help us, right. I mean, I think we say this over and over again, but we are not successful. And thus our community and the Dapps building on top of us are successful. And so that’s like a really a model that we abide by, and I’ll let Nexio actually speak to more of that, because I think rather than me talking about it, the prime example is next year we have a close relationship with their team. We’re really big fans of both the founders and yeah, we just have a really good relationship and really good working relationship with them. So I’ll, yeah, pass it off to Nexio.
Charlie (Nexio)
Yeah. Thanks, Ali. Yeah. So with the Bitcoin EVM, we are working with Movement Labs and through them we get the fractal code interpreter, which allows developers to deploy their existing the apps using solidity. So this allows for parallelization as well. We have so with parallelization we allow for localized free markets, so no applications. Use will affect other application fees, so developers will be able to build efficient derivatives with fees that actually make sense. So we can build the derivatives. We can build decentralized networks, we can build a decentralized payment system that actually works. Specifically, what we’re going to tackle at the beginning is defy and specifically runs. We see fungible tokens on Bitcoin that are trading like non fungible tokens, huge user experience problem. And within the first week of ruins, we saw $130 million of fees taken from the market. And what we thought is imagine this was put into liquidity. Tools so definitely want to work on runes, user experience 1st and yeah working very closely with movement as well.
Kyle (Avail)
It so in the modular space as, as we all know, people are segregating the blockchain functionality, they’re keeping execution and settlement in the in their ecosystem and then they’re outsourcing DA availability and consensus to external layers. They’re innovating with different execution layers like movement, which is obviously super safe and very functional, very performant and with DNA. People are lowering costs and when you’re building a new blockchain, you have to bootstrap validator, bootstrap your validator set and liquidity and with available data availability you not only get much lower costs. As you’re putting all your transaction data and or state changes and then validity proof goes to the settlement layer. So there is a source of truth, but you also have a built in validator set which says. Time and then when you think of that second product with proof aggregation, so you have multiple change state verification you can enable cross chain liquidity. So not only cross roll-ups in the Bitcoin ecosystem, but letting people stay within their Bitcoin chain of choice. And tapping into EVM space, tapping into cosmos, parachains. That’s the end goal of just having this one in intent based layer that functions and gets rid of the traditional mint and burn bridging, DEX, and it’s cool seeing all these people innovate with all these different tech stacks and so just seeing all these people play with these little defi Legos and tech stack Legos to enable all these different use cases. And I’d say the verticals run the gamut, at least I see a lot of people building with EVM stacks using something like movement. An execution layer and then trying to tap into Bitcoin. Already there’s people doing bit VM and trying to build their own custom stacks. Next year has done a really cool job just innovating in the space and just testing out what’s most efficient. So it really runs the gamut and it’s everything from defi. Naturally it’s I know some people building oracles. I know some people building. True decentralized cloud-based infrastructure. I know all sorts of things even like e-commerce, decentralized e-commerce shops to disrupt everything in web 2. So it’s really fun to see and I like avail being a VM and I’d say like industry and vertical agnostic layer because I get to see all this innovation including you know what people are doing to really tap into the Bitcoin ecosystem.
Luke (Zulu)
Great, fantastic answers here and actually how you got into the next question I want to ask and maybe you can dive a little deeper into some of these. I wanted to get you guys take on you know what you’re seeing across the BTC modular landscape right now. What are some of those cool use cases that you see people building? And are there any surprising use cases that you’re seeing?
Kyle (Avail)
Yeah, I think I mentioned a bit of that. What is interesting so far is you know you had a couple years where it took. It took 1 1/2 two years to really see 70 to 100 roll ups in the EVM space and it seemed like over a couple of months you have 70 roll ups in the Bitcoin space. I don’t know how many are serious yet. And I don’t know how many are building innovative solutions. What I do love is people like Alpine Labs working on building trustless bridges to and from Bitcoin, and that’s to get native Bitcoin and settlement information over on Bitcoin. So that is the source of truth, because ZK proofs aren’t enabled. On the Bitcoin space or in the Bitcoin space, you have D wallet that’s doing a AA signature authentication process to enable native bitcoins to flow over to roll ups on e-mail and others, and then of course you have things like Babylon which is a double signature authentication Mechanism. So when you’re thinking of the actual rollups, the Bitcoin rollups that I’m seeing, I’m not seeing a ton of innovative infrastructure to just leverage the Bitcoin ecosystem economic security yet. But it’s just it’s a matter of time. I know people are thinking through it, maybe at wiper stage, but it’s so early that. I don’t think we’ve really seen enough innovation that it’s taken years in the EVM space to get to, but I already gave a little bit of my. Last answer, so I’ll pass it on.
Charlie (Nexio)
So besides all of the exciting infrastructure and we’re very excited about Babylon, there has been a few layers that have done a good job getting applications up. And I saw this week there was an application where I was able to bridge my Bitcoin to this layer. From there I was able to go and use their decks and I wanted to get Ethereum, so I traded my Bitcoin for Ethereum and then I actually bridged my Ethereum out to base. Previously, if I’ve ever done this, going from Ethereum to Bitcoin or Bitcoin to Ethereum, I always had to just settle by sending my money to Coinbase. So I thought this was very cool that I no longer had to use a centralized exchange and besides this. Very excited about. A lot of the defi applications that are up and coming lending, we’re very excited about as well as derivatives. So just very excited about all of the development that is currently happening within the ecosystem.
Ali (Movement Labs)
Yeah, and echoing what both Kyle and next to you were saying, yeah, just really fascinating because it’s like the first time we’re starting to see use cases of being able to use Bitcoin as a native asset for defi. And I think that’s super interesting. It’s it has like also like second order effects of now we have a mission, where the Bitcoin ETF just got approved and so a lot of institutions are going to be onboarding, right? And once they get tired of just having their bitcoins sit on their balance sheet, they’re going to be their next question is how, where can I use this Bitcoin? And I think that’s where it becomes super fascinating because it’s like a Trojan horse where next, we might see institutions start taking part in defi, something they’ve historically not been able to do or not partake in. And I would say how it relates to movement is. move itself is a relatively safe language and has a lot of like security features built in that prevents some of, like, the reentrancy attacks that are pretty commonplace in other ecosystems. And so as a natural place, I think institutions may feel very comfortable leveraging a language like move or movement to interact with defi using their Bitcoin. So that’s the use cases that I’m most excited about. And yeah, we, we’re actively having conversations with a lot of these players in this space.
Luke (Zulu)
I guess we couldn’t gather a bunch of a few Wall Street people here without having institutional defi come up at some point. So thanks for that, Kyle, on something you said, I think actually since the last time you and I caught up, we actually announced that our engineering team managed to do a test to ZK proof using bitVM on the Bitcoin main net. So some really exciting developments. Exactly what you were talking about that. I think you and I maybe have a talk about later after this, but you know innovation is there some of us really are trying and making some actual visible progress on it. So glad to see people are paying attention to this. On to the next question, how do you guys see new Bitcoin projects benefiting from the new modular infrastructure available now? A lot of that that wasn’t around during the ETH layer two season and especially even other ones.
Charlie (Nexio)
So what’s very different about now compared to the existing Ethereum roll-ups that we’re building was from the beginning, projects are able to leverage these existing modular solutions which allow for more scalable, efficient and really just advanced. And highly specialized solutions so teams are able to make use of these specialized components in order to build their modular. In fact, and in the beginning it was monolithic, so every single component had to be built by the team themselves. So there was always some stuff within the stack that was a little lacking. So now we can have, in our case, the parallel processing, the localized fee markets, those advanced security measures. That get brought to us from the move language and that prevent us from those reentrancy attacks and so forth, as well as it gives us that ability to be interoperable with Ethereum, Aptos and suite, as well as movement, and allow people to easily. Transfer their assets between the ecosystems.
Ali (Movement Labs)
Yeah. And I think in terms of just what we’ve had, what we have now versus in the future, I think the or in the past, I think the biggest thing is just like giving developers optionality which historically they haven’t had, it’s either like, Nope, you have to use this one model if you don’t like it, you can’t use it, you can’t interact with it if you don’t know it, go learn it, right. Whereas now in like this version point 2.0 or V 3.0 if you will. Yeah, it’s much more flexible and it’s also meant to be interoperable, which is a huge thing because you can have your Bitcoin sitting on different chains, different ecosystems earning different yields across different things. So I think it really opens the door not only for like users or consumers, but more so for developers to start experimenting and building some new products and tools.
Kyle (Avail)
Yeah, and reset everything there and reiterate in a different ways that the reason the EVM space took off in a big way is because of the amount of dev tooling and now that you can use this dev tooling in different instances to tap into the Bitcoin ecosystem, which is naturally the much larger by far economic layer and much more decentralized in the proof of works. The way that it just gives people many tools to go build, fail fast, and innovate. And the more iterations you have, the more likely you’re going to see innovations faster and the path, or I’d say the speed of innovation is what is the pace of innovation is probably the best leading indicator of survivability and thrive ability of any ecosystem. So the more people we have coming to build in different languages. Not just one, let’s say Solidity, and so on. It’s it. The more powerful it is because there’s probably a few 100,000 Web 3 developers in the world. There’s 10-plus-million C++ developers, and so we need more language optionality. We need more dev tooling to get people to come and tinker so we can break things and innovate fast, so I just love that there’s so much optionality there and we’re just seeing people, tinker, plug and play. And eventually find success.
Luke (Zulu)
Yeah, I think to what Ali and Kyle are saying here about the flexibility and the ability to experiment that’s going to be one of the real big things. A lot of us in this space we have maybe one really good idea and then the idea is for what we’re doing to enable other people who have other good ideas, give them the tools. To be able to create that other thing that we didn’t think of kind of like 1 + 1 = 3 thing, we’re just these new developments encourage growth in other ways that in, in chaotic way that we just didn’t experience. So I think you guys are making some really, really strong points here. OK. On to the next question, how is the emergence of defi on Bitcoin different from in Ethereum?
Ali (Movement Labs)
Yeah. So yeah, so. I think there are a lot of similarities and I think initially it’s going. To look actually very, very similar to how we had defi on Ethereum, but with that said, I do think some of the things that we’re probably going to start seeing or there’s going to be needs because. I think when you think about when you think about people deploying Bitcoin at least from a unit basis, when you’re talking about one Bitcoin versus like one Ethereum, right, you’re talking about $60,000 versus like a $2000 asset, right? And I think with those numbers, people are going to want heavy, heavy security, heavy things that have been audited. They’re going to want things that there might be some new. Insurance funds that start kicking up saying like, hey in in the case this happens. And the cool thing is, I mean, not cool, but the interesting thing is that we can use lessons from the past, right? When we had defi summer, there were a lot of protocols that came out. It was very exciting. A lot of people lost money because they put their money into these protocols and they made these promises. And everyone knows that none of those promises were camped out. They actually ended up losing their. Whereas with Bitcoin losing one death is one thing, losing 1 Bitcoin is actually pretty significant, right? So I do think this new wave of defi that we are going to see is going to be much more strict on the vetting process and really on board and get like getting some of the crypto degens like comfortable deploying their Bitcoin on top of these networks.
Kyle (Avail)
Yeah, I agree that. That I don’t know if it’ll be much different altogether, except what will be different is it’s a different demographic in some cases, meaning the Bitcoin crowd is different than the Ethereum crowd and therefore will be more reticent to take risks like. People have been into things in the in the Ethereum ecosystem which became a vibe and but again, I don’t know how much different it will be. I’m excited to see it, but I think it’s still so early that we really don’t know. I know it’ll be a lot of the same because a lot of the builders will come over to build in the same space on just on the Bitcoin layer. But yeah, we’ll see what the institutional crowd that have the Saylor’s and Ver’s and all these people. Telling them a different story than Ethereum if that creates a different vibe and therefore creates a different demand for different facets and therefore different things are built. I’m not quite sure yet, but it just remains to be seen.
Charlie (Nexio)
I agree with Kyle how there’s definitely going to be some differences in terms of how people use it and what solutions they’re going to ultimately find acceptable to use their Bitcoin on. However, in the beginning it will be different from Ethereum. In the sense that. It was all experimentation in Ethereum. Now we have seen what happened with Ethereum defi. We saw what applications do well. We saw what models of applications go poorly, so we are able to take this information and construct. The best solutions based off of the what went wrong and what went right based in Ethereum.
Luke (Zulu)
So a lot of uncertainty, etc. But that’s to be expected, right? It’s still pretty new. So the difference is in how Bitcoin is set up and functions lead to a lot of questions about what it’s going to look like, but maybe something that’s a little bit easier or a little more clear to think about is you know what’s going to be required before we see a fully developed BTC defi ecosystem like what already exists in Ethereum.
Kyle (Avail)
Yeah, I think the 1(st), or one of the first really important things to figure out is the bridging aspect right? Not just BitVM bridge, it’s great though it’s optimistic. I would like to see trustless 0 knowledge bridges that are able to come to and from. And then we’ll see what people build and how they use things like Babylon and different ecosystems. Even Avail is doing something with Bitcoin on fusion, where you can stake native and potentially wrap Bitcoin to increase economic security, the base layer and that will add to Bitcoin yield strategies. I’m sure wrap Bitcoin folks will come put those on Aveo fusion, convert to Bitcoin and go. Or even Babylon is just coming out to production soon. And So what needs to happen is not only again bridging, but also battle testing, because there’s going to be so much breaking of things. And that’s a good thing in my opinion, because the more you break something, the more you understand the risk. And attack vectors and the more you can heal it up and build something better.
Charlie (Nexio)
For us, we view OP_CAT and the way to natively verify proofs directly on Bitcoin as a significant factor in ordering to get Bitcoin defi as big as Ethereum defi. And. Also, on top of this we need trustless bridges which will come from other OP codes as well if that was adopted and just the ability to have a better UX experience, a better trading experience, while still having that Bitcoin security is definitely going to be an important factor.
Ali (Movement Labs)
Yeah. So I think in terms of what we, we’ll probably start seeing actually I actually think there might be like a bifurcation of users, where you might have something super, super risky. And then something on the complete opposite, where it’s actually extremely safe. So like, let’s say you’re just moving your Bitcoin to Babylon, that’s all. You’re not actually doing anything else then like phase two, you might have in LST on top of Babylon, which there are LST’s being built right now for Bitcoin. So you might see that which is a little bit more risky. You’re not teaching and then you might have this third category of users that’s like super degen, I’m looking for the 50% yeah. And basically like there’s a risk you might get rugged, I think naturally you’ll always have that. That’s what we had in Ethereum as well, where you had a lot of like users who were initially like very hesitant. Then once they started getting into it, they got more and more degen as they started feeling more comfortable. So I think we’ll actually see a similar thing, but I think you know some of the like I think some of the other things we might see is like. insurance protocols that might come up that protect your assets or things like that. I think that would be an interesting innovation, especially for some assets like a like a Bitcoin.
Luke (Zulu)
Some real good ideas here. I mean, the insurance thing is not one I probably would have immediately gone to, but it definitely makes a lot of sense, and I think the ramp up like we saw in the theorem is probably a good indicator like wetting your toes and then really getting into what crazy new, exciting things. Maybe can be on offer. All right, so on to our next question. What are you working on or what do you see being built now that you think is going to be a game changer for Bitcoin innovation in the near future?
Charlie (Nexio)
One of the biggest game changers overall will be those trustless bridges and the ability to move your Bitcoin to any ecosystem. Last bull cycle we saw peak TVL cross chain of around 70 Billion in other ecosystems, whether that’s WBTC, RenBTC as well as some centralized solutions of course. And now of course RenBTC fell apart and some of those centralized solutions did as well, but it showed us that people want to go use the Bitcoin and make it productive capital. However, at that time there were no solutions available for people to use their Bitcoin in such a manner, so they relied on these other solutions. However, now that’s going to completely change. We’re definitely going to see people use their Bitcoin across different ecosystems and as we get those trustless bridges and better. Infrastructure, we’re going to see a major increase across ecosystems of Bitcoin usage as the native asset.
Ali (Movement Labs)
For me, I think one of the cool, cool things that innovations we’re excited about that we’re actively working on is just this parallelized infrastructure for Bitcoin. So I don’t know how recently you have interacted with the Bitcoin network, but it can take anywhere from 30 minutes to an 4 hours to get your transaction across. I think that’s what most people are used to, especially the Bitcoin crowd. Of like, we’re just waiting and waiting and not really being able to like, even like when trying to buy an NFT right now on Bitcoin, just praying that your transaction goes through. So I think when you have this parallelized system that’s being built and being implemented. To work to be modular and to be work seamlessly with Bitcoin rails, I think we’re going to see some fascinating activity, fascinating use cases and really blow people’s mind away. So pretty excited about seeing that come to correction.
Kyle (Avail)
I think probably one of the most exciting things to me about this ecosystem is chain abstraction. And making it so that people don’t feel like they’re going from one bridge or from one roll up to a settlement layer to another, roll up to get an asset and do the same back. And that’s when you cross two rollups. Imagine when there’s 100 roll ups or 1000 roll ups and so avail Nexus with a validity proof for every chain verifying that. We can start aggregating those into one aggregated proof. What’s happening right now is the dex is building something where they’re creating an app chain of coordination chain and all the different chains before they were on. People will Simply put out an intent to buy or sell something and the assets to buy or sell are just put into an escrow and then that coordination chain coordinates and order book matching engine finds the coincidence of once and simply, but goes back to the person, so that gets rid of bridging in in the majority sense, or at least in the traditional mint. And aspect and so that’s what I’m really excited to see where people can stay in the Bitcoin ecosystem. They Simply put out an intent of what they want to do and they tap into liquidity across every single chain in every single VM across the entire ecosystem, in a zero knowledge, verifiable way. And that’s going to change the game of user and liquidity fragmentation, including just across these Bitcoin roll ups and so as opposed to just bridging and then fragmenting it across all these roles in the Bitcoin ecosystem, you could stay exactly where you are, put out an intent, and it updates on the other side and just unifies liquidity across the entire ecosystem and getting rid of a massive attack vector in the mint and. Bridging aspects across all these different chains as well. So I think that’s going to be a massive game changer.
Luke (Zulu)
I like what I’m hearing. I think, all of those make sense as some real strong and interesting spaces to watch in the Bitcoin ecosystem. So moving away from the Bitcoin defi area for a bit, anything you guys want to share about your projects road map and future development?
Ali (Movement Labs)
So one super exciting feature that we’re starting to develop, not even a feature, but more of a product is basically app chains. So being able to launch your own app chain leveraging the movement execution environment and again making it modular. So if you want to choose avail as your DA layer, you’re it’s possible to do that. And you know a bunch of. Other options or if you want to choose your own sequencer, or if you want to choose your own consensus layer. So stuff like that. So we’re really excited about that and have a few teams that are actively building app chains on top of this, including Bitcoin, parallelized app chains as well. So yeah, that’s exciting innovation that we have coming up.
Kyle (Avail)
Yeah, I guess the road map avail data availability the first of three projects will go main net in the coming weeks. Nexus will likely be public and live in the in the coming months and then Fusion where you could put native Bitcoin or a Bitcoin on avail consensus it will come. Probably end of year or early next year, but that’s the three things we have on our road map right now. And you never know what’s coming after that.
Charlie (Nexio)
Yeah. On our end, we’ve been pretty quiet, but you’ll hear from us soon enough. Definitely pay attention to our Twitter as we will be updating the community there and launching our socials soon. Parallelization on Bitcoin is coming and we’re very excited about it.
Luke (Zulu)
Very nice. Very nice. Thanks for that, alpha. So lastly if people want to learn more about the project you’re working on or to reach out where can they find you?
Kyle (Avail)
Awesome. You can go to availproject.org to see everything from the docs and in depth write ups. We have a really long list of very technical blogs at avail project on Twitter, slash “X”, whatever they going to call in the future. I’m on Twitter as you could see if you can’t right now it’s Kyle a Rojas. Feel free to hit me up in DM’s there, they’re open and happy to dive into everything modularity.
Charlie (Nexio)
Yeah, definitely. Follow us on Twitter. We’re going to have some announcements soon as well as all of our docs are going to be posted within the next few weeks and definitely going to really get going with the socials. Really let everyone know what’s going on.
Ali (Movement Labs)
Yeah. And for us, obviously, we have a website movement labs dot XYZ. X discord telegram. We’re all over. So whatever medium you can, it’s pretty easy to get in touch with and we’re pretty responsive. Maybe just one more thing. We just launched Battle of Olympus last week, which is basically our big competition for projects to join and compete for prizes. And we’re pretty excited about that. We’re putting a lot of resources behind that, so if you are a project looking for a home, looking to build interactive movement team or even the movement community, please do apply. It’s going to be a really exciting, exciting project for us and we we’re super pumped to have people working together.
Luke (Zulu)
Awesome. Thanks for that. And then I’ll leave this one open, but does anyone here have any closing remarks they want to share?
Kyle (Avail)
Life is good.
Ali (Movement Labs)
Yeah. No, just thank you so much for hosting this space. I know it takes a lot of time and effort to plan these things and always appreciate studying these.
Charlie (Nexio)
Yeah. Appreciate it. Keep on building. We’re all. We’re all moving forward to space and it’s really early right now, but it’s going to be a bright future.
Kyle (Avail)
Yeah. With that, they’re just a bunch of nerds doing fun, cool stuff, and I’m just proud and really happy I get to be with all you guys. You’re awesome.
Luke (Zulu)
Love it. Love it. You guys have been an absolute pleasure, so I’m happy to do more of these in the future. Whenever you guys whenever our schedule will sync up again, thanks once again for taking the time. I mean I know that you know all three of you are of course very, very busy and really appreciate the insights not just for my benefit, but also for all of our communities who are learning something from this. So please follow. Zula network and all through the projects here, on Twitter, join their communities, you’ll be the first to know about all these great, cool new things happening in this space. And until next time I’ve been your host, Luke, one of the Co-Founders, Zulu network. Hope you join us next time. Take care everyone.
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Zulu Network is the first Native Bitcoin DePIN Layer optimized for AI + DePIN implementations. With Zulu, everyone will have the ability to stake assets, help facilitate operation of various DePIN and AI protocols and earn on the Bitcoin Network.
Zulu is an innovative blockchain protocol that combines the security of Bitcoin with the flexibility of EVM infrastructure to foster a new decentralized economy, focus on AI & physical infrastructures, and empower users to stake their assets to power the future of DePIN innovation.
