15/18 That's not to say he can't get there. But a strong orator like Pete Buttigieg has spent this last cycle trying to polish that, and still probably isn't there yet. But, right now without any practice or growth, he is a *great* chess piece in the South, where swing voters and a broadening Dem base want that pragmatism. And when you combine that cross aisle issues pragmatism, with charm, you get a 1992 Clinton result, where Dems dominate.